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Last
week I received a message from an old friend who
I have not heard from in months. Since most of
our communication existed via email, I assumed
with an actual phone call, there must be a sense
of urgency so I immediately called him right back.
"Hey Bill" he says, "I need your
help. I think I am getting screwed by a car dealer."
This
is not the first time I have received calls like
this. Earlier this year a good friend was at the
mercy of an out of state Toyota dealer who felt
if they scared him bad enough with dealer terminology,
he would immediately send them ANOTHER $5000 rather
than have to return the car. Fortunately I armed
him with knowledge, and the dealer ended the pursuit.
I
would like to set something straight, I believe
dealers have the right to make a profit. If you
planted a $30k investment, you too would expect
a healthy return. There is a fine line. The best
way to balance the scales is to assure that both
parties share equal knowledge. Every buyer should
have a background of the vehicle, of the dealership
and the car sales industry. I can help you with
the latter.
"Let's
talk price"
Every purchase will essentially come down to price.
The M.S.R.P. (Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price)
is a nice little guide to what you should pay
for any vehicle on the lot (30 years ago). Since
then, dealers have shot themselves in the foot
by making every effort to undersell the competition,
so that now children have been trained at birth
to dicker. So how do dealers get around that?
Dealer add-ons. These are over and above the factory
options listed on the sticker. These are additional
costs that can vary from undercoating, paint sealant,
fabric protector, supplement retail, market value
adjustment and more. These inflated costs are
designed to show a higher price for the car, therefore
making the dealer look like saints for lowering
the price. Always examine the "Supplement
sticker" buried somewhere on the vehicle
you are considering.
Invoice
price is a guide most dealers will shout at you.
"We sell for $500 over invoice!" This
of course can be deceiving considering seldom
does it reflect true dealer cost. Again, there
are many factors to consider. Dealers can alter
an invoice. Often they contain a "dealer
pack" of .6% and can also have various "other"
costs listed below such as "shipping",
"lot", or "dealer" fees. If
a dealer offers you a purchase price above invoice,
be sure to have a copy of that exact vehicle's
invoice easily obtainable from the internet. These
can occasionally be incorrect, by often no more
than $50. Finally, what the dealer did not want
you to know. Every factory offers a "hold
back". The hold back is the money sent back
to the dealer for selling that car at year's end.
Most dealers do not use this figure when they
are calculating a deal, but if a dealer ever tells
you he is losing money on a deal, think again.
The
re-bait
The dealer can do only so much to persuade you
to sign sixty months of your life away. They rely
on the dealer incentives often to help close the
deal. Dealer incentives are often cut and dry.
They consist of an "either/or" program
that will appeal to cash or financing consumers.
Dealers usually use factory rebates to help show
lower sale pricing. If you come in for a "Specially
advertised price", they will not mention
any special financing rates. Often, these rates
will lower your payment significantly, although
opting for "specials rates" cancels
out foretold rebates, therefore deconstructing
their sale price. A smart shopper will have accessed
information for rebates and rates on the automakers
site prior to shopping on the lot.
What
about my trade?
Trades can kink any deal. In a perfect world,
cars would just explode after 36k miles and you
could walk into a dealership fresh. But, out with
the old payment, and in with the new.
Many
factors can determine the unloading your prior
burden. How much you owe? Condition of vehicle?
Market value? How bad you were screwed the last
time you bought a car?
Everyone
hopes to have equity in a trade. If you are trading
in your car with in the first 3 years, do not
count on it. Most loans require well over half
of the contracted payments made just to break
even. It seems for every payment you make, your
car loses double the value. Hard to justify buying
another vehicle, be we do. Consumers are often
armed with printouts and Kelly Blue Books showing
what their car is worth. On this one, I have to
side with the dealers. Dealers are not going to
take your car in for more than it is worth; it
does not make sense for them to do so. They might
show it on paper with some clever numbers. But
they will NEVER overpay for your present vehicle.
Dealers use present auction value as a guide.
If your 97 Chevy Blazer shows a Blue Book value
of $12,873, but an identical Blazer went through
the last regional auction for $9,120. You can
assume you will get the lesser amount for your
trade. It is basic math. Sure you drove your car
to soccer games and back and only used premium
gas and synthetic oil, but your Caravan is worth
what it is worth. No reason to argue.
Now,
with that in mind, do not let them steal your
trade. Knowing the market value of your vehicle
is not common knowledge. Most dealers must either
call an auction or check with pay services that
keep up to date on the ever changing figures.
So asking a few deals of your vehicle's worth
is always your best shot.
Payment
SHOULD be
There is a common practice called "Packing
the payment". This is where the manager calculating
payment will add to either the payments shown
or the interest they feel they can get you. This
covers a few bases for them. By adding to the
payment they present you, it leaves them room
to add an extended warranty. This is designed
to cover you past your present factory warranty.
There are a few things to consider when purchasing
this option. First of all, how long have you had
your present vehicle? If you are in the habit
of turning in past vehicles every 2 to 3 years,
this warranty is a bad idea. You will be adding
another $15 dollars a month to your car payment
for no reason whatsoever. Two misnomers about
extended warrantees are that you can purchase
one anytime prior to your factory warranty running
out. Second is that if you purchased one, and
are trading in your vehicle before it runs out,
you many receive money back for the unused portion
from the supplying company (usually the dealer
who sold it to you).
Packing
the payment combines the forces of the lending
corporations. Banks will allow dealerships to
raise interest rates and pocket the difference.
If I was approved with First Bank of Goober Idaho
at 6.9%, Goober Chevrolet could then offer me
9.9% and put a nice little 3% in their pocket.
It is never a bad idea to obtain financing through
a credit union or personal bank if factory rates
are not offered. 1 to 3% can add up fast.
The
number game
Everyone likes to cushion the blow. Dealers have
built a successful business by learning how to
sell you a car. After a dealer sits with you,
listens to your concerns, and understands your
financial limits, he will then go in back to write
down their numbers. Be prepared.
A
wise man once told me math is math.
If
you expressed to your salesman that your main
concern was getting the most for your trade, that
is what you will get. If you mentioned you could
get the same car at your brother-in-laws dealership
for a certain price, that is what you will get.
There is simple math here that anyone can follow.
If
a dealer tells you that your car is ONLY worth
$10k, and will sell you his car for a discount
at $25K, you may be getting a great deal on a
new car for a difference of $15k. But wait, another
dealer told you he would give more for your trade.
He shows you a sheet with $15k for your trade,
but offers you the new car for $30k. Again, $15k
difference. They will show you numbers any way
you would like. Each time with the same exact
difference. Keep an eye out on how a deal is presented.
Take the time to do your own math and see how
it makes sense.
Simple
little items to watch for:
A
new car should always come to you clean and full
of gas.
If
you have accessories on your trade that will transfer
to your new vehicle, ask to keep them. If they
say no, then ask how much they gave you for them
(Dealers seldom add trade value for accessories).
If you bother them enough, you should be able
to keep your old stereo and KC lamps.
Ask
the dealer "why should I buy from you?"
Ask them for rentals at service, free car washes,
and free oil changes. They have no problems giving
their service department extra work down the road
for a simple car sale now.
Never
asked a friend for advice. There is a common rule;
your friends will always tell you they paid 15k
more for their house and $5 less than they really
did for a car. No one will ever be honest about
how a dealer took them for a ride; therefore you
will never get a straight answer on what they
paid. Never use hearsay for ammo.
Make
them work for your business. There are 20 other
dealerships near you that paid the same price
for that car. They need to stand out, so make
them. Also, never buy a car on the same day you
get an offer from a dealer. Always research their
offer. If a deal sounds too good to be true
well,
you get the point.
Research
research research. Always have your facts. Know
your stuff. Ignorant with a $600 car payment is
is not the way to go through life. Happy buying.
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